Lonelygirl15

kellylen wrote:It's because their bodies go into a shock mode and they can't feel it.

exsactly, so for no reason what so ever should we assum that whom ever got shot is unconcious.

I don't think anyone is assuming that. I said that because Bree's father is still on his feet at the end of the video, we should not assume he is dead without further proof. I'm not really sure where this digression on shock and gunshot wounds has come from.

because they wouldnt realize they are shot and would be standing.

like how brees dad was at the end

tiltingwindward wrote:I don't think anyone is assuming that. I said that because Bree's father is still on his feet at the end of the video, we should not assume he is dead without further proof. I'm not really sure where this digression on shock and gunshot wounds has come from.

ok true....we did get kinda off topic..........I am sorry.......we just wanted to point out that hey he could be dead and that we think he was shotited

stuart2004 wrote:

tiltingwindward wrote:I don't think anyone is assuming that. I said that because Bree's father is still on his feet at the end of the video, we should not assume he is dead without further proof. I'm not really sure where this digression on shock and gunshot wounds has come from.

ok true....we did get kinda off topic..........I am sorry.......we just wanted to point out that hey he could be dead and that we think he was shotited

it actually came from your post stateing that he wasn't unconcious. i jsut misread your post and a piece of the post you were reffering to (which was mine...good job kelly *smack head*) and attempted to correct it...and then it became a big discussion...

good job for realizing things late kel... *smacks head again*

I had fun with it.........plus it was informative..............
smacks head


just wanted to try that and it hurt so I wont do it again

and wow i did a really bad job explaining that...

basically misread a post you made tilt, attempted to correct it and it became a big discussion. Then I re-read it and found where i was in the wrong...so i smacked my head.

either way...
I think we can assume all we want right now...as we have no confirmation and absolutely anything other then the fact that the order, bree's father, jonas, daniel and bree were in a parking garage. and they got split up (at least in different vehicles). And its open ended right now. we're going to speculate and assume. We have absolutely no information in general in what happened really other then what we heard and saw, and even that was all jumbled up and confussing because of the chaos.
so all we can really do is assume away and debate and discuss...until we get a new video...
someone may be asuming that...we were just stating what we knew...

absolution wrote:I dunno, I'm very reluctant to believe that Jonas got shot. There would have been more of a reaction from him and the other two. Plus I don't think there will be any killing off of main characters in LG15... I'm not convinced that Gemma is dead either. Brother is so useless.


I agree that the fading reminiscent of death though. I half expected black text to come up "Mr. Bree 1953 - 2006" like in Six Feet Under

I don't think it was Jonas either. I doubt Daniel would have gotten in the car and yelled GOGOGOGOGO in Jonas's face if he'd just gotten shot. He seemed to be stumbling around a lot, yes. But I think he just felt kind of awkward and useless. Like "Oh god, wtf did I get myself into? I can't do anything for these people." His character really WANTS to help Bree and her family and Daniel. Note he is trying SO hard to do something helpful for Bree after she ran off with his car and credit card. Bree runs to Daniel for help, Mr. Bree is wrestling Lucy and a bald Deacon, what could Jonas have done? He seems like he is trying to figure out what to do, and that is why he is moving all over the place. It's kind of sad.. I feel bad for Jonas.

And if Daniel told me to drive after I'd just gotten shot, I would have thrown the freaking camera at his face.


As for the white light at the end, it doesn't necessarily mean someone died. It could just be passing out, or something. And in Gemma V, Sad Panda pointed out that the white light resembles car headlights. If that is true, maybe someone from the Order jumped in the car and drove to stop the kids. Maybe it was Gemma, coming to save the day for Lucy and the Deacon and win over OpAphid's affection (after all, she had been afraid Op was mad at her).

killthesmiley, thank you for explaining. I just don't think we should jump to conclusions about the death of characters without a little more evidence.

In other news, having rewatched the video, I need to retract my earlier statement about the action in the video taking place near the top of a parking garage far from ground level. Looking out through the spaces in the concrete, I can see handrails and steps up to the front glass doors of a building, which I had previously mistaken for windows. Sorry folks.

It seems like a little more thought about who is posting the vids (Daniel, "on behalf of Bree") and why would be useful. We know Daniel has edited the "Unthinkable" vid after the fact by including the still shot from the My Difficult Decision vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwJN_PYMBlo

At this point, Bree and Daniel would have spoken a bit about what happened, so who are they trying to contact with this video editing?


Also, tags from the My Difficult Decision vid:

LG15 lonelygirl15 daniel danielbeast sad bastirma parents ceremony lame

(bastirma is a dried spiced meat, from Egypt and Middle Eastern cuisine...)

Or, rather, Daniel is posting "on Bree's account" (I read that as "on Bree's behalf")

...which may have just been an oversight because the LG folks got used to posting all vids to one account on Revver...

hmmm.

shifty wrote:

wh_pirate wrote:

shifty wrote: I played around with it and cleaned it up a bit, but I still wasn't able to make out what he was saying.

Did you "clean it up" in normal mode (not reversed)?

Yes, still couldn't make anything out. :/

After listening to the dialoge about a BILLION times I think I know a little bit of what was being said. I think it was Bree's dad talking and it sound like "( i don't know much of the beginning) She wanted(I don't know) stupid thing (I don't know) that's what she wanted, that's it."

I'm not certain, but that's what I heard. I don't think is any useful, but I tried.

just because I love being Mr. Lucifer's advocate...

Do we know who got shot by who? Maybe Jonas packs heat and panicked? Maybe, as I sincerely hope, Lucy just got hers.

Farva wrote:just because I love being Mr. Lucifer's advocate...

Do we know who got shot by who? Maybe Jonas packs heat and panicked? Maybe, as I sincerely hope, Lucy just got hers.

For a little while there I was thinking it was Jonas too. It seems in character that he would've brought it for protection "just in case" and shot off a warning shot in a panic.

But, I think not b/c he was pretty on with the camera - getting Bree's reaction and looking back to see what happened after the shot.

What I did think was a little odd is that they so easily drove away...not chased. I know Bree is "the chosen one" and all - the order probably doesn't want to harm her. But no chase still felt funny. Does the order actually not care so much about Bree, but her father (who probably knows a lot more secrets than Bree does).

i was listening to the video again last night on my ipod (for the 100th millionth time) and i heard other people (other then bree and daniel and jonas) yelling "hold him!"
also i can kind of make out the dialog...i'm going to have to listen again...but it is not reversed dialog we were hearing at all. there are words.
also there is a pounding heart beat at the end of the video.

alright...i've pieced a bit together:

wait..
*mumble mumble* (this is where i think you guys think its reversed audio...it sounds like it in a way... but it think it's jsut mumbling.)
....she... (thats the only word i can make out.it might be "what is she doing?" but i'm not sure...)
we might have to...
*squeal of tires*

edit:

alright after listening to it a couple of times, i've come to the conclusion that i was wrong. That is definately jonas and daniel whispering loudly. They are jsut tryin to figure out what is going on, and by the looks of Bree's father (notice how his head is turned towards the direction the car comes from) and the tone of daniels voice PLUS the seemingly long pause, they all saw the car coming. But didn't know what to make of it.
Also by the looks of bree's body language it seems that she didn't notice the car coming. Like who would pay attention to something like that and think its a danger in a parking garage...

edited for spelling, adding of quote and just general cleanlyness....