i can't believe i just said that

cbizzle44 · Post by **cbizzle44** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:06 pm

this last line didn't make much sense to me. was she apalled that she said that she didn't trust daniel and jonas? or was it something else that we didn't get to hear?
assuming it's the former:
what if bree is under not just brainwashing, but direct mind control? as in, she has little control over what she says. maybe, when she said this, she remembered everything daniel and jonas have done, and couldn't believe she didn't trust them.
explains the ads
and the freaking out- trying to fight it
if its something else...... i dunno
opinions, anyone?

staticmorning · Post by **staticmorning** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:09 pm

when i heard her say that, i immediately took it to mean she couldnt believe she said she didnt trust them. but im not sure why she would realize that, unless the barinwashing or whatever it was is wearing off...

fixedG · Post by **fixedG** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:16 pm

I think it's just the duality of her state of mind right now. In the chat, she kept mentioning little things she used to do back in the day, like hiking and swimming, and it seems to me like that's part of her old self shining through. I think that means there's hope of reaching pre-HoO Bree.

BlackCatonMars · Post by **BlackCatonMars** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:17 pm

I took it to mean that the brainwashing is in the process of wearing off and she can't believe she said she didn't trust them. Earlier in the video she picks up P. Monkey and says "I think I remember you," which to me implied that she is somewhere between "brainwashed" and "not brainwashed" but how long that transition takes is anyone's guess.

Libra · Post by **Libra** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:20 pm

Brainwashing takes a long long time to do to a person. Bree was only with the HoO for 2 weeks. I think this is the effect of mind control.

allisonjenna · Post by **allisonjenna** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:10 pm

She's probably "coming down" from the injections they gave her.

Aerrow · Post by **Aerrow** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:19 pm

Well if you are talking about her freaking out and like replying to herself.. The memories could be coming back of everything that happened before she was captured and now that they are all flooding back she doesn't want to believe it all but at the same time, I mean it's in her head, shes conflicted between her feelings for her friends and her trippy happy (probably druggy) feelings with the order..

oxdeltaxo · Post by **oxdeltaxo** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:24 pm

Aerrow wrote:Well if you are talking about her freaking out and like replying to herself.. The memories could be coming back of everything that happened before she was captured and now that they are all flooding back she doesn't want to believe it all but at the same time, I mean it's in her head, shes conflicted between her feelings for her friends and her trippy happy (probably druggy) feelings with the order..

Well if she is coming off a drug addiction it's all normal for her to feel just a bit wigged out while she's climbing a wall, anyone seen train spotting?

cbizzle44 · Post by **cbizzle44** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:29 pm

ooh good
brain washing is wearing off then
wonderful

Aerrow · Post by **Aerrow** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:36 pm

oxdeltaxo wrote:
Aerrow wrote:Well if you are talking about her freaking out and like replying to herself.. The memories could be coming back of everything that happened before she was captured and now that they are all flooding back she doesn't want to believe it all but at the same time, I mean it's in her head, shes conflicted between her feelings for her friends and her trippy happy (probably druggy) feelings with the order..
Well if she is coming off a drug addiction it's all normal for her to feel just a bit wigged out while she's climbing a wall, anyone seen train spotting?

Yea but when you break a drug addiction, the way your body reacts depends on what the drugs do to you.. Like if the only drugs they were giving her made here serene and happy, then coming off of them it should be massive depression and not so much freaking out and jumping around the way that she was.. Idk, I'm not like a drug specialist or anything nor will pretend to be, lol..

oxdeltaxo · Post by **oxdeltaxo** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:45 pm

Aerrow wrote:Yea but when you break a drug addiction, the way your body reacts depends on what the drugs do to you.. Like if the only drugs they were giving her made here serene and happy, then coming off of them it should be massive depression and not so much freaking out and jumping around the way that she was.. Idk, I'm not like a drug specialist or anything nor will pretend to be, lol..

Like you said it depends on the drugs themselves, to me though it seems like they were giving her some kind of mild x. The effects of which when combined with brainwashing are unknown to me, but I expect bree to quickly become manic depressive, which goes along with her behavior in the video, and the common burn out effects of x.

Aerrow · Post by **Aerrow** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:54 pm

oxdeltaxo wrote:
Aerrow wrote:Yea but when you break a drug addiction, the way your body reacts depends on what the drugs do to you.. Like if the only drugs they were giving her made here serene and happy, then coming off of them it should be massive depression and not so much freaking out and jumping around the way that she was.. Idk, I'm not like a drug specialist or anything nor will pretend to be, lol..
Like you said it depends on the drugs themselves, to me though it seems like they were giving her some kind of mild x. The effects of which when combined with brainwashing are unknown to me, but I expect bree to quickly become manic depressive, which goes along with her behavior in the video, and the common burn out effects of x.

lol, I don't think they would give her anything close to x, I mean they don't want to harm her.. When your on X, you are all happy and trippy but at the same time your body gets really hot and your really horny..

impulse · Post by **impulse** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:55 pm

Aerrow wrote: lol, I don't think they would give her anything close to x, I mean they don't want to harm her.. When your on X, you are all happy and trippy but at the same time your body gets really hot and your really horny..

Where can I....hmm, no forget it.

oxdeltaxo · Post by **oxdeltaxo** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:00 pm

Aerrow wrote:lol, I don't think they would give her anything close to x, I mean they don't want to harm her.. When your on X, you are all happy and trippy but at the same time your body gets really hot and your really horny..

Yeah but who's to say it wasn't something similar which influences serotonin the same way that x does? It would still result in manic depressive effect when coming down.

Aerrow · Post by **Aerrow** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:01 pm

impulse wrote:
Aerrow wrote: lol, I don't think they would give her anything close to x, I mean they don't want to harm her.. When your on X, you are all happy and trippy but at the same time your body gets really hot and your really horny..
Where can I....hmm, no forget it.

Just find a rave, lol.. They just freaking hand'em out there..