This is becoming a bad horror movie... (LONG nooB post)
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:52 am
(Note that this was supposed to be posted several vids ago, but I had problems registering - thanks Broken Kid!!)
Since this is my first post, let me begin by saying I love this... series? I'm completely hooked. I randomly came across one of the middle vids and then spent the next three days watching all two hundred twenty-odd vids. Didn't get much work done those three days, but I'm definatley hooked, now; can't wait to see what's coming next.
That said, a few things have been irritating me to the point that I can't get them out of my head - maybe discussion will make them go away. You know how in horror movies there's always someone who says "I'll be back," then walks into the dense woods at night to investigate a strange noise in the basement? It seems our heroes' actions have become reminiscient of those movies..
DB:
It seems like ever since the Beast learned his feelings for Bree were unrequited, his interest in helping/saving her has been waning. I suppose there are people like that, but it doesn't seem realistic, to me, for him to just drop her like that when he believes her life is in danger. He may be upset that she doesn't have the same feelings, but that doesn't mean he immediately stops caring about her.
He was willing to stalk Bree and risk crashing the fake ceremony when she was hangin' with Lucy, but now he's more interested in goofing off all day with the damaged girl than trying to find his friend whose life he believes is in danger? I don't think so.
Now, I'm all for "playing" (PG-13, right?) with the damaged girl, especially when she's throwing it at him, but wasting an entire day like that? I guess it's not that big a deal, though - they just believe the Ceremony is imminent and are questioning if Bree will survive it.
I hope MY life is never in his hands.
Jonas:
I know that Jonas is on his way back now, Taylor in tow (who didn't see that coming, right?), but what was he thinking, driving to Texas?
He said it's a 1500mi drive - that's 24hrs of speeding if he doesn't stop for rest and is able to stay on major highways/interstates. What happens if Bree is suddenly located and Jonas is on the road? They're not using cell phones any more, so he won't know until he gets to Tx. Then it's a 24hr drive back to Cali, ASSUMING he's able to do a turn-around he doesn't stop for rest on the way back.
Even if he gets rest in Tx before Bree is (hypothetically) located, he's still 24hrs away - and if he doesn't stop for rest he'll be all but useless when he arrives. I know the writers had to find Taylor a ride to Cali so she could stay in the plot, but it makes NO sense for Jonas to have gone back to Tx. If you're tired of the people around you, you go do something with out them for a bit - you don't take a 3000 mi drive, especially when you're friend's life is in jeopardy somewhere nearby.
Group:
Are these people dumb, or just stupid? "We have nothing obvious that we can do, so we'll just screw off and see if our friend dies." Jonas had enough "spy movies" to entertain Bree for a day, but apparently he's never watched any of them. He has a girl (Taylor) who can hack into a telcomm computer system and locate a cell phone signal in the woods near his house, AND who is eager to help, but they've "done everything they can think of." Two words for these guys: Public Records
They have the addresses of several properties owned by the Order and/or its members. Go to the County Assessor's Office Online and look up those addresses - see whose name they are in. Then search those names - see what other properties they own that you didn't know about. Go check those properties out, maybe you'll get lucky and find Bree, maybe you'll get lucky and find more info about the Order. And guess what, all of that is Public Record, no hacking required.
We know the Order is trying to pass itself off as a religion, and here in the good ol' U-S-of-A that means one thing: no taxes. But they have to register for that. Look up the registration forms - who signed them? Do we know that person? Do they own property ? What's at that property? a house? an office? We're about to start a trend, here: Public Record
They've also seen a number of cars driven by Order memebers - Lucy's car, Alex's car, the car that picked Alex up at the beach, the car that Bree got into - that's four just off the top of my head. Pull their license plates off the video and see who the cars are registered to, which will also tell you what other cars are registered to them AND where they live - yup, more property searches.
"Property," for the uninitiated, means "somewhere Bree could be."
Okay, so vehicle registrations aren't public record; but they ARE available to a much broader range of people than cell phone GPS information - this means accessible networks much more vulnerable to penetration than the telcomm, which means Taylor should have no problem getting this info if she can hack a telcomm.
I'm sure there would be a lot of dead-ends in those property searches, but for a couple hours on the computer and the price of a tank of gas (granted, gas prices are out of control - but I doubt it would take 3000mi to track them all down), it's worth trying. At least it'd be a lot more pro-active than screwing off for a day or taking a three or four day trip to Tx.
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So, my new friends on the forums, what do ya'll think? Sorry this post is so long, but like I said at the very beginning, I've had a few days to think about it. And the more I think, the less I understand the actions of our would-be heroes.
Talk to you all soon,
MZR
Since this is my first post, let me begin by saying I love this... series? I'm completely hooked. I randomly came across one of the middle vids and then spent the next three days watching all two hundred twenty-odd vids. Didn't get much work done those three days, but I'm definatley hooked, now; can't wait to see what's coming next.
That said, a few things have been irritating me to the point that I can't get them out of my head - maybe discussion will make them go away. You know how in horror movies there's always someone who says "I'll be back," then walks into the dense woods at night to investigate a strange noise in the basement? It seems our heroes' actions have become reminiscient of those movies..
DB:
It seems like ever since the Beast learned his feelings for Bree were unrequited, his interest in helping/saving her has been waning. I suppose there are people like that, but it doesn't seem realistic, to me, for him to just drop her like that when he believes her life is in danger. He may be upset that she doesn't have the same feelings, but that doesn't mean he immediately stops caring about her.
He was willing to stalk Bree and risk crashing the fake ceremony when she was hangin' with Lucy, but now he's more interested in goofing off all day with the damaged girl than trying to find his friend whose life he believes is in danger? I don't think so.
Now, I'm all for "playing" (PG-13, right?) with the damaged girl, especially when she's throwing it at him, but wasting an entire day like that? I guess it's not that big a deal, though - they just believe the Ceremony is imminent and are questioning if Bree will survive it.
I hope MY life is never in his hands.
Jonas:
I know that Jonas is on his way back now, Taylor in tow (who didn't see that coming, right?), but what was he thinking, driving to Texas?
He said it's a 1500mi drive - that's 24hrs of speeding if he doesn't stop for rest and is able to stay on major highways/interstates. What happens if Bree is suddenly located and Jonas is on the road? They're not using cell phones any more, so he won't know until he gets to Tx. Then it's a 24hr drive back to Cali, ASSUMING he's able to do a turn-around he doesn't stop for rest on the way back.
Even if he gets rest in Tx before Bree is (hypothetically) located, he's still 24hrs away - and if he doesn't stop for rest he'll be all but useless when he arrives. I know the writers had to find Taylor a ride to Cali so she could stay in the plot, but it makes NO sense for Jonas to have gone back to Tx. If you're tired of the people around you, you go do something with out them for a bit - you don't take a 3000 mi drive, especially when you're friend's life is in jeopardy somewhere nearby.
Group:
Are these people dumb, or just stupid? "We have nothing obvious that we can do, so we'll just screw off and see if our friend dies." Jonas had enough "spy movies" to entertain Bree for a day, but apparently he's never watched any of them. He has a girl (Taylor) who can hack into a telcomm computer system and locate a cell phone signal in the woods near his house, AND who is eager to help, but they've "done everything they can think of." Two words for these guys: Public Records
They have the addresses of several properties owned by the Order and/or its members. Go to the County Assessor's Office Online and look up those addresses - see whose name they are in. Then search those names - see what other properties they own that you didn't know about. Go check those properties out, maybe you'll get lucky and find Bree, maybe you'll get lucky and find more info about the Order. And guess what, all of that is Public Record, no hacking required.
We know the Order is trying to pass itself off as a religion, and here in the good ol' U-S-of-A that means one thing: no taxes. But they have to register for that. Look up the registration forms - who signed them? Do we know that person? Do they own property ? What's at that property? a house? an office? We're about to start a trend, here: Public Record
They've also seen a number of cars driven by Order memebers - Lucy's car, Alex's car, the car that picked Alex up at the beach, the car that Bree got into - that's four just off the top of my head. Pull their license plates off the video and see who the cars are registered to, which will also tell you what other cars are registered to them AND where they live - yup, more property searches.
"Property," for the uninitiated, means "somewhere Bree could be."
Okay, so vehicle registrations aren't public record; but they ARE available to a much broader range of people than cell phone GPS information - this means accessible networks much more vulnerable to penetration than the telcomm, which means Taylor should have no problem getting this info if she can hack a telcomm.
I'm sure there would be a lot of dead-ends in those property searches, but for a couple hours on the computer and the price of a tank of gas (granted, gas prices are out of control - but I doubt it would take 3000mi to track them all down), it's worth trying. At least it'd be a lot more pro-active than screwing off for a day or taking a three or four day trip to Tx.
--
So, my new friends on the forums, what do ya'll think? Sorry this post is so long, but like I said at the very beginning, I've had a few days to think about it. And the more I think, the less I understand the actions of our would-be heroes.
Talk to you all soon,
MZR
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