Adam Lamar, Pine Log Editor

amblyopianne · Post by **amblyopianne** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:38 pm

http://one.revver.com/watch/328452/flv/affiliate/100468

Hey guys .. . . and girls.

I kind of don't know what to say to you all. Honestly, I don't know enough about the story to interact, so I'm trying to piece together what happened to Maddison and Adam while trying to coordinate the making of this documentary.

It's tiring, and I guess I'm kind of shy . . . and slow.

sparkybennett · Post by **sparkybennett** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:47 pm

amblyopianne wrote:http://one.revver.com/watch/328452/flv/affiliate/100468

Hey guys .. . . and girls.

I kind of don't know what to say to you all. Honestly, I don't know enough about the story to interact, so I'm trying to piece together what happened to Maddison and Adam while trying to coordinate the making of this documentary.

It's tiring, and I guess I'm kind of shy . . . and slow.

Wow
that was tough....he was NOT very helpful.
but you did fine! I imagine it will get easier.
I am sure Officer Terrell will be more helpful tomorrow (He has to be!)

I can't believe he does not consider Maddison and Adam newsworthy.
Wow ...

Do you have your questions planned out for tomorrow?

How can we help you ?

Esteed · Post by **Esteed** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:55 pm

He may have been helpful after all...

Ten girls at a local band's show are drugged. They wake up with needle marks and no signs of any of the usual atrocities that people commit when they drug a girl. This is strange in and of itself, along with the fact that it happened in April, and one other thing.

Maddy was big into the local music scene.

Maybe I'm just getting too Mulder about this, but I really don't think so...

amblyopianne · Post by **amblyopianne** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:59 pm

sparkybennett wrote:
amblyopianne wrote:http://one.revver.com/watch/328452/flv/affiliate/100468

Hey guys .. . . and girls.

I kind of don't know what to say to you all. Honestly, I don't know enough about the story to interact, so I'm trying to piece together what happened to Maddison and Adam while trying to coordinate the making of this documentary.

It's tiring, and I guess I'm kind of shy . . . and slow.
Wow
that was tough....he was NOT very helpful.
but you did fine! I imagine it will get easier.
I am sure Officer Terrell will be more helpful tomorrow (He has to be!)

I can't believe he does not consider Maddison and Adam newsworthy.
Wow ...

Do you have your questions planned out for tomorrow?

How can we help you ?

Questions for Officer Terrell

1. What can you tell me about Joel Frady and his arrest?
2. How do you think all this affected Nacogdoches?

That's all I have for now.

If you have better questions for me to use, I'm totally game for that. I mean. I'd really appreciate your help with the doc.

Thanks

trainer101 · Post by **trainer101** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:01 pm

That would have been a huge story - especially in a college town. Needle marks? Wonder what that could mean.

trainer101 · Post by **trainer101** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:09 pm

Questions for Officer Terrell:

Were the bodies ever recovered or did he confess?
Is Joel Frady also known as Warpylol or are they 2 different people?
How instrumental was the video "No More" in obtaining a conviction?
Has any connection been established between Maddison, Adam and the girls who disappeared?

I'm sure we'll think of plenty more.

stingray · Post by **stingray** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:25 pm

Interesting information.

Good job capturing that. You might be surprised what people say to a camera. I would recommend letting the camera roll. You can get some great stories when people feel they are going to be "featured" in the media.

sparkybennett · Post by **sparkybennett** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:29 pm

I wouls also like to ask the Officer if they know about Mr Zipp , and if so do they know how he is connected to Maddison.

robtomorrow · Post by **robtomorrow** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:36 pm

Maybe Joel Frady was framed, and he is actually not the killer. So of course we need to know what evidence the police have and what happened at the trial.

ApotheosisAZ · Post by **ApotheosisAZ** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:43 pm

trainer101 wrote:Is Joel Frady also known as Warpylol or are they 2 different people?

I wouldn't normally disagree with trainer.

Aknowledging warpylol's existence to the authorities seems suicidal to me.

Just my opinion.

GregGallows · Post by **GregGallows** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:57 pm

Esteed wrote:He may have been helpful after all...

Ten girls at a local band's show are drugged. They wake up with needle marks and no signs of any of the usual atrocities that people commit when they drug a girl. This is strange in and of itself, along with the fact that it happened in April, and one other thing.

Maddy was big into the local music scene.

Maybe I'm just getting too Mulder about this, but I really don't think so...

I found a myspace for a musician named xoc (the band adam lamar mentions)

http://www.myspace.com/xoc

sparkybennett · Post by **sparkybennett** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:08 pm

I thought it was the XO band .... as in " XO cd release party" but I could be hearing wrong.

maybe someone was testing those girls blood for a certain trait?
maybe they were looking for a certain possible "ceremony" girl who had escaped their grasp?

ElizKM86 · Post by **ElizKM86** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:12 pm

With all of the attention this online community was giving Maddison and Adam we were unable to find ANY media coverage following their gruesome deaths. In order for us as a community to be truly helpful for you, we need to be able to see all of the information you have. With the intimate knowledge we gained of the whole situation leading up to the murders, we are the best people to piece together the puzzle of this situation. But we are missing some pieces you have. It would be extremely helpful to us (and in turn, to you) to post up any news articles, video clips, anything you have about the period of time after the murders.

We were who Maddison was leaning on in her last days. It is amazing to me that the police would not have contacted the most active members of this online community in trying to piece together what happened.

The following questions I am asking you, but might also be helpful in your interview with Officer Terrell:
Have you reviewed Madddison's video-blog's and subsequent interactions with the online community?
When did you hear about the murders?
What was the media coverage like following the murders?
Where did you hear the name of the accused?
Have you spoken to Maddison or Adam's family?
Did you know either Maddison or Adam personally? How have their deaths affected you?
Has there been any contact between the police and the mysterious Mr. Zipp?
What is the current status of the case against Joel Frady? How did he become a suspect?

If you can get/pass along this information to us it would be EXTREMLY helpful! You would be AMAZED and what we can do with just tid-bits of information. Keep in mind though that we are not magicians. There are some barriers that we were unable to overcome, and with that we were unable to save Maddison and Adam. With that heavy in our hearts, we would like to be positive that her killer is brought to justice.

We would all love to help you. We just need more information.

GregGallows · Post by **GregGallows** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:36 pm

sparkybennett wrote:I thought it was the XO band .... as in " XO cd release party" but I could be hearing wrong.

maybe someone was testing those girls blood for a certain trait?
maybe they were looking for a certain possible "ceremony" girl who had escaped their grasp?

your right, it was XO.. I misheard it.

theres also a myspace for XO the band

http://www.myspace.com/xotheband

cant find any info on any recent cd releases yet tho.

lg15panda · Post by **lg15panda** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:53 pm

Not bad for your first interview, Clara. I guess Maddison and Adam never made a big splash on campus -- they seem to have missed popping up on SFASU's radar.

Good luck on your interview with Officer Terrell. A couple of suggestions for questions, feel free to use them if you want:

1. Was Joel Frady an initial suspect for the murder case? If not, who was?
2. Can you describe the timeline of key events for this case?
3. In your experience, was there anything about this particular case that seemed strange?
4. What was the crucial evidence that led to the conviction of Joel Frady as the murderer of Maddison and Adam?
5. Do you believe that this is truly an isolated incident? If not, what makes you suspect that there is more to this case than this double murder?
6. What were the reactions of the families of Maddison and Adam when their bodies were found? What were their reactions to the arrest and conviction of Joel Frady? How about other reactions in the Nacogdoches community (e.g., SFASU)?

A question for you (for clarification): is Joel Frady related to Adam in some way? Adam mentioned an Uncle Joe before he died.

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Where is your current info from?