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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:47 pm
by phipunk
trainer101 wrote:
IG: The community needs to come together and compose a compelling introduction for Arscott. I assuming that since he suggested the project to Clara, that he's well aware of our existence.
In the spirit of community introduction composition, here's what I wrote to the Professor.
Subject: Maddison Atkins
From: Philip Mylast-Name
To: warscott
2007 July 15, 12:04 am
Hello Prof. Arscott,
I understand that you have asked a student of yours, Clara Stokes, to
produce a thesis project on the tragedy that struck Nacogdoches this
spring. As I'm sure you know, Maddison had a group of people
interacting with her online constantly in the weeks leading up to her
murder. While we can't know the impact it must have had on those in
the SFASU community, please know that watching events unfold as they
did was a gut-wrenching experience for us all. I wish we could have
done something more, something sooner, anything to save her.
Is a particular reason you chose Clara to make this film? It seems
that her interviewing technique is somewhat brusque for such a
sensitive subject.
Regards,
Dr. Philip Mylast-Name
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:54 pm
by trainer101
Thanks phipunk!
*Split off into its own topic*
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:17 pm
by amblyopianne
That's shitty.
Where do you work? I'll go there and complain about you.
I'm not good at all this. Sure. But there's no need to tattle on me. How old are you guys.
He sees the footage I acquire, I'm sure I'll get an earful this week from him anyway.
Whatever.
It's your business. You can contact him. I'm not hiding anything.
Please don't bombard him though. He already kind of doesn't like me.
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:20 pm
by consideration
amblyopianne wrote: He already kind of doesn't like me.
I can kind of see why.
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:28 pm
by LesterG
son fo abiscuit I'm posting wrongly everywhere lol
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:34 pm
by giddeanx
amblyopianne wrote:
Where do you work? I'll go there and complain about you.
Well if I did something rude or obnoxious I would expect you to.
You stepped up to a hive and shook it. What exactly did you expect to happen.
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:36 pm
by krmurr87
why was her professors e-mail posted if we wern't suppose to contact him ....
And it was a simple question and her interviewe had asked the same question, arn't you curious why clara?
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:42 pm
by Skunkwaffle
amblyopianne wrote:That's shitty.
...
I'm not good at all this. Sure. But there's no need to tattle on me. How old are you guys.
I totally agree Clara.
Look everyone, we have separate agendas here, I know. We want answers about Maddy, Clara wants to make her documentary and graduate. Now we can keep being at odds with each other here and eventually neither one of us will get what we want. Or we can try to find some common ground, and maybe we can end up helping each other instead of just getting pissed off.
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:44 pm
by trainer101
Let's boil this down to the key points:
amblyopianne wrote:1. You can contact him.
2. Please don't bombard him though.
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:49 pm
by Skunkwaffle
I think that means we should wait to see if he writes back to this first email before sending any more.
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:50 pm
by TOSG
Skunkwaffle wrote:amblyopianne wrote:That's shitty.
...
I'm not good at all this. Sure. But there's no need to tattle on me. How old are you guys.
I totally agree Clara.
Look everyone, we have separate agendas here, I know. We want answers about Maddy, Clara wants to make her documentary and graduate. Now we can keep being at odds with each other here and eventually neither one of us will get what we want. Or we can try to find some common ground, and maybe we can end up helping each other instead of just getting pissed off.
Agreed on the last part. Perhaps a division of labor is in order...
Do you have specific tasks on which we could help out, Clara?
PM to Clara
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:58 pm
by ElizKM86
OOC: I PM'd this to Clara. Hopefuly we can get her to respond like an adult instead of having her call us names...
IC:
Clara,
As a community, we appreciate that we have the opportunity to help you in any way we can. Unfortunately, you are making it VERY difficult for us. You ask for help. We offer to help. You give us NO information. You give us NO directions. You aske us NO questions. Than you say we are not helping. What the hell are we supposed to do.
I realize that this project was not your own idea. I realize that you feel you have been dumped into a world of people who you think are crazy. I realize that you are frustrated with us.
But get this.
We are just as frustrated with you.
You refuse to take this seriously.
The death of Maddison was tragic. UNDERSTAND THAT!
Your senior thesis SHOULD be very important to you! Why are you not putting in the footwork? It really seems like your not to me, and to many others. Do you even want to graduate? I think you do, or you wouldnt still be persuing this story. Trying to contact your advisor is not "tattleing". (btw-are you about 7 years old?) Contacting your professor is us ATTEMPTING to HELP YOU. You have not given us any avenues to do so, so we are finding our own. If you would like to act like an adult about this project of yours, and about a very tragic situation, than I suggest you get serious. Read the forum. Do the footwork. Stop acting like a child. Stop crying that we are not helping when you have given us no avenue's to do so. This is YOUR project. We are just research material for you. So DO YOUR RESEARCH. Your project is on the reaction to Maddison's death. You are getting your reaction right now. THIS IS your thesis. I am befuddeled as to how you do not see that.
What is it you need US to do? Tell us and we will help.
We are trying to do so despite your lack of direction. Without which, we have followed our only leads. You don't like it, than do something about it.
If you continue to isolate us by acting like a spoiled child and calling everyone names, you know we will still help you. ONLY because we all loved Maddison. But that doesnt mean you can treat us like shit. So stop it. We don't really care if you graduate. And we will continue to not care if you continue to treat us like shit. Your only option is to work with us. So just do it.
Seriously.
-Liz
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:58 pm
by krmurr87
TOSG wrote:Skunkwaffle wrote:amblyopianne wrote:That's shitty.
...
I'm not good at all this. Sure. But there's no need to tattle on me. How old are you guys.
I totally agree Clara.
Look everyone, we have separate agendas here, I know. We want answers about Maddy, Clara wants to make her documentary and graduate. Now we can keep being at odds with each other here and eventually neither one of us will get what we want. Or we can try to find some common ground, and maybe we can end up helping each other instead of just getting pissed off.
Agreed on the last part. Perhaps a division of labor is in order...
Do you have specific tasks on which we could help out, Clara?
exactly ...we're just in the dark as you are. We failed her, we're stuck on the puzzels. We're lost and frustrated as well.
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:20 pm
by amblyopianne
I'm gonna go for a walk before I answer...........
OK back.
I want some credit. As best as I can I'm taking this seriously.
I'm shooting interviews. I'm posting them so you can see them. Eventually, I'll probably include you all in the project.
I may not know what I'm doing, and I don't think I can be blamed for not understanding this story . . . as you all tell it. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't. Right?
I know it doesn't help that I blink into stare-mode when I read through these forums. I don't know who any of you are. I don't understand any of the back story. I've gone through the summary thread 900 times in this forum. I do that thing when you read the same sentence over and over again.
I can't get my head around it. I can't. I'm sorry. It's too much.
And I don't even want to start looking into the warpylol video or the explanations of Frady's pidgeon interactions.
I'm sorry. I don't get it, and I don't like it that you contacted my professor. So what. I'm not being a bitch. I think - you in my position would react similarly.
Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:26 pm
by GregGallows
Clara, your doing an awesome job.
No one else has tried to tell this story so far, so for that you deserve a hell of alot of credit.
Plus, your here right now. Which to me speaks volumes.
Sorry if this gets emotional at times, its a very personal subject for alot of people.
You have friends here, people who would love to get to know you and for you to get to know them.