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[chat progress] current puzzle, quotes from the voicemail
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:06 am
by brandoblues
Here we are, the proceedings shall begin
Message to opahid:
cluechaser wrote:
For whats its worth, ive set a topic in the forums
no more secret club, i said my peace to the participants, hopefully they will follow it.
ill no longer worry about anything but what is the task at hand. i love the puzzles but without my peers help they become more dificult with the distractions.
game on!
Opahid reply:
There is great meaning to uncover, some of which has not been found at this time.
However, with another important test close at hand, it might be best to figure out what is being asked of you.
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ME: i really dont have a question at this time, we have the quotes, but no primer, unless we dissect everything from day one. which is alot.
OPAHID: Do not consider them quotes. Take the message as the message without reading into anything else.
ill update this with pertinent stuff real quick.
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:08 am
by TheChessboardWoman
So we still haven't found the instructions in the message, which are obviously pertinent and we should stop straying from the message. And it's supposed to be literal... So... What is it?
BTW :
Each success only buys an admission ticket to a more difficult problem. [Henry Kissinger]
It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.
[Voltaire]
Mistakes are the portals to discovery.
[James Joyce]
Alas, never interrupt an enemy when he is making a mistake.
[Napoleon]
It is possible to fail in many ways, while to succeed is possible only in one way.
[Aristotle]
Do what’s right, the right way, at the right time.
[Arnold H. Glasgow]
A story is told as much by silence as by speech.
[Susan Griffin]
Except in this case.
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:15 am
by MaxZyrix
OK, this is what I've gotten by asking Aphid directly:
What situation could that be?
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:16 am
by TheChessboardWoman
These are replies I've gotten from her :
Those willing to protect in actions, rather than words, will always be deemed worthy.
TheChessboardWoman wrote:
> If we protect Denderah from those trying to open it's secrets - like Cassie, Daniel, and Greystoke - Will we have furthered the proof of our worthiness?
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Interesting comparison.
Not an entirely accurate one, but it certainly would not hurt for one to fear such actions from us.
After all, we tend to overestimate with our fears. Only those who act in arrogance underestimate the consequences of their actions.
TheChessboardWoman wrote:
> When you say "FAIR GAME" is it the same FAIR GAME LAW as in Scientology?
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Aren't the two quite similar? Analysis is what tells you whether something is a danger or a threat.
Right now you're supposed to be deciphering an instruction to deal with potentially one or both.
TheChessboardWoman wrote:
> Are we looking for a danger, or a threat?
>
> OpAphid wrote:
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> > Wrong path.
> >
> > Wrong third party.
> >
> > No one has put the pieces together yet to anticipate what might happen next. What your test might be.
> >
> > The test WILL happen. But what happens when no one is prepared?
> >
> >
> >
> > TheChessboardWoman wrote:
> >
> > > It wasn't really my view, I was repeating what everyone was saying in the chat, so, obviously, our collective view is narrow.
> > >
> > > Is it important that at this time Bree had her 'first date' and all her sneaking out was going on?
> > >
> > > OpAphid wrote:
> > >
> > > > Your view is a tad narrow. Perhaps involve a third party.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > TheChessboardWoman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The video addressed to Bree that you sen[t] her?
> > > > >
> > > > > OpAphid wrote:
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> > > > > > Both apply in a way. But what has a greater tie to the message in question that you do not understand?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TheChessboardWoman wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > When you tell us to look at the disclosure from the not-so-distant past and the events surrounding it, do you mean Bree's disclosure about lying to Daniel (and subsequently protecting the Order) about the fake ceremony?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Or do you mean the 'Disclosure' video of yours?
EDIT - Fixed a tag
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:17 am
by steavetheundead
a revolution?
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:20 am
by Absynth
steavetheundead wrote:a revolution?
interesting.. i was thinking all those quotes could apply to war
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:22 am
by steavetheundead
Absynth wrote:steavetheundead wrote:a revolution?
interesting.. i was thinking all those quotes could apply to war
i was thinking that too, but the lines about the established authorites made me think you were fighting against something that was already there when you werent kinda deal... i dont know if i typed that in a way that made sense... so tired...
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:22 am
by MaxZyrix
Absynth wrote:interesting.. i was thinking all those quotes could apply to war
Woah, a war. That's a completely different way of seeing things.
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:26 am
by TheChessboardWoman
MaxZyrix wrote:Absynth wrote:interesting.. i was thinking all those quotes could apply to war
Woah, a war. That's a completely different way of seeing things.
Haven't we been thinking war all along?
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:37 am
by Absynth
ok heres some ideas on what each line could mean.. feel free to criticize, elaborate or discuss, after all mistakes ARE the portals to discovery...
Each success only buys an admission ticket to a more difficult problem.
<each puzzle will get harder
It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong.
<if we solve them(puzzles), we could be put in a dangerous position.
still i wonder who the "established authorities" are
Mistakes are the portals to discovery.
<i think this is the most obvious.. we post our thoughts so, as they did in
the roman forums, we can compare notes and see where our
thoughts lead us
Alas, never interrupt an enemy when he is making a mistake.
<this one i am a little unsurer of. could this help us define the sides
or choices before us?
It is possible to fail in many ways, while to succeed is possible only in one way.
<also this one is obvious to me, take it literally to mean there is only
one solution
Do what’s right, the right way, at the right time.
<when we are in fact, tested we will have to make our choice
A story is told as much by silence as by speech.
<our correct choice may be to keep something secret, or keep some type of information a secret from our "enemy"
let me know what you think about this, OpAphid says we are to take this all literally, so we need to find the message she is trying to communicate here
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:39 am
by brandoblues
what is being asked of us? i know other threads have addressed this, but aphid is still asking if we know.
the voicemail if you listen to it in context without thinking of them as quotations, says something to us.
of decisions, right and wrong. of the people who are making decisions, those who make mistakes and who make discoveries, of choices we will have to make when the time presents itself.
it is us who has to decide, and the path is not an easy one. some will be enlightened and discover the path, and others will be wrong and be lost in the process.
there is a right place and time, and it is near, and we must be prepared to make a desicion.
what will you decide.
interpret the message, what does it tell you, thats what it tells me
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:41 am
by steavetheundead
thats more or less what i keep coming up with to... i dont know how to take it literaly other then... taking it literaly...
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:53 am
by Jace101
Most seem to do with "right" or "wrong". So who's made mistakes? Who's been wrong? Daniel? Cassie? Us?
On the other side, who's been right? Bree? She did make the right decision, that was ophids first video. Maybe the religion is right?
Can you tell I'm confused? And why is almost everyone sentence of mine a question?
EDIT: That was my first post, didn't even know I hadnt posted. Or had I? O_o
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:55 am
by soulkaun
I had an idea that we the people, are the established authority. That the more we are right than we thought we were the more dangerous it gets. IDK, throwing it out there.
Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:09 am
by brandoblues
the thing is, is how far are you willing to go to choose. is it a choice of right or wrong, black or white, square or circle, or is it as simple as joining the side of the winner or the loser.