Did it occur to anyone...

doombuggy · Post by **doombuggy** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:56 am

That things could be exactly the opposite of what it seems. At this point it seems VERY clear that The Order, Gemma, and Op are the bad guys in the story...and Jonas, and Tach are the good guys.

From a story and plot point of view its the way they get you convinced of one thing only to throw the big 180 at you at the last minute

Its the classic "You didnt see that one coming" plot twist.

Doom

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:21 am

Not everyone sees Oppy as a bad person.

Ziola · Post by **Ziola** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:47 am

I've said it before and I'll say it again...

While the Op side is portrayed as "evil", Tachyon is the one who has actually harmed or killed someone.

AGuyNamedJoe · Post by **AGuyNamedJoe** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:08 pm

doombuggy wrote:That things could be exactly the opposite of what it seems.

Looking at the story from different perspectives is all just part of the fun.

Me, I have been following the story from a metaphysical perspective. The symbolism of the phrases and objects found in the story I find most intriguing. Of course, the writers never intended to write the story at this level consciously, but, it simply can't be helped. As a writer, you bare the inner workings of your soul in everything you write.

The writers would be profoundly embarrassed if I were to reveal what I know about them.

mlewuzhere · Post by **mlewuzhere** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:47 pm

I've thought about it. But i like surprises...soo bring it on

kayokosaeki · Post by **kayokosaeki** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:53 pm

Ziola wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again...

While the Op side is portrayed as "evil", Tachyon is the one who has actually harmed or killed someone.

sorry, i missed that. where/when has tachyon actually harmed or killed someone?

yoruba · Post by **yoruba** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:58 pm

I'd love that. Along with love, anger, kidnapping, wierd symbolism, schizophrenia, someone being forced to something and other things

Cuddlebunni · Post by **Cuddlebunni** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:09 pm

Maybe things ARE exactly opposite of what we think.

Maybe the Order are the good guys and Bree and Daniel are the bad guys.

Like maybe they are like mechanically made people or aliens or something

Or the Order is trying to prevent something that is going to happen in the future (terminator?) Like Bree and Daniels child is going to blow up the world or something.

Yeah umm.. thats a crazy theory I know, but the point is, we really dont know where this is going for sure. Things we think are one way could very well turn out to be another...

Its interesting to see us all work together to solve the mysteries of LG15.. and its fun to hear everyones theories.

Im just excited to see how it all turns out.

angelik_pistol · Post by **angelik_pistol** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:18 pm

i was thinking this same thing! has anyone else noticed that bree has not been seen since daniel left her, maybe jonas has her tied up in his basement or shipped her off somewhere! but im definately suspicious that we havent seen her yet. my guess is we'll have a vid of daniel going to save her or something. but i think jonas is part of the prder as well. why else would her parents tell her to stay away if they were good and where are her parents if they are ok?

TJ Marsh · Post by **TJ Marsh** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:37 pm

So wheres the Watchers in this?

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:01 pm

Iris2009 wrote:So wheres the Watchers in this?

Watching you.

doombuggy · Post by **doombuggy** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:15 pm

Perhaps the watchers are a separate entity from the Order.

If you subscribe to the fact that Gemma is evil and she was warning Bree to avoid the Watchers, perhaps the Watchers are good guys too.

I doubt that both Jonas and Gemma are on the same side...that just wouldn't be good story telling.

In a good versus evil scenario sides MUST be taken. You have to have sides to play off of each other. There is very seldom anyone other then the main characters that are right in the middle. A good writer will get you believing one thing and then pull the rug out from under you.

I'm looking at it like this...

Order = The Big Bad
OP = Bad Guy "upper management"
Gemma = henchman

Bree = Damsel in distress
Daniel = Misguided hero

Jonas = Watcher...trying to help protect Bree
Tach = realized Op is bad and is now trying to help the innocent
Watchers = The anti-order...trying to save people from being "sucked in"

Patrick

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:31 pm

kayokosaeki wrote:
Ziola wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again...

While the Op side is portrayed as "evil", Tachyon is the one who has actually harmed or killed someone.
sorry, i missed that. where/when has tachyon actually harmed or killed someone?

It's revealed in the OpAphid/Tachyon ARG. I'm not sure which thread, but the OpAphid section FAQ's might help.

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:32 pm

I really think the watchers are good...they afterall are just 'watching'.

they aren't killers....as of yet...or kidnappers.

if they wanted to hurt bree and daniel, they would have done it and would have captured them.

if the watchers are good..maybe tach is bad?

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:33 pm

nobackspacebutton wrote:I really think the watchers are good...they afterall are just 'watching'.

they aren't killers....as of yet...or kidnappers.

if they wanted to hurt bree and daniel, they would have done it and would have captured them.

if the watchers are good..maybe tach is bad?

That's kinda been my feeling...but...that would mean I should like Gemma and despite my efforts I just don't.

Lonelygirl15

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