CiW can reappear

AniDonia · Post by **AniDonia** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:54 pm

A thought just came to me:

The recent video pretty much comes out and recognizes CiW as a Breeniverse entity, just not the same entity she was presenting herself as. It seems that in the official Breeniverse, Bree's Cassie really IS behind CiW, but instead of being a ghost, is a cheeky and a bit mean-spirited teenager who pulled an elaborate prank.

I've mentioned it before, but since OpA (clearly canon and in the Breeniverse now) started off toying with and gamejacking CiW, the. by default (or retcon) it must also recognize the existence of CiW the username. "Cassie tells lies"... and in the Breeniverse, indeed she did.

cassieiswatching exists in the Breeniverse, and it can be inferred from Bree's anecdote that her old friend Cassie also exists as the user behind it.

If CiW's PMs are up to it and they play it right, it seems that they do have the opportunity to introduce a character into the canon through that means, which will either have to be recognized, or retconned out.

Because the cassieiswatching username is recognized, they can stick in a girl or an actress and be like, "Hey Bree... this is Cassie. Haha, you caught me" and she would have plenty of canon-weight to mess with the plot.

Maybe this was done on purpose, or maybe the Creators accidentally left a loophole for CiW's PMs to potentially take advantage of. Sure, it would definitely NOT be the same creepy, dead Cassie, but I'm sure the project would be interesting if it had the same PMs on board.

What do you think?

kayokosaeki · Post by **kayokosaeki** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:48 pm

i think cassieiswatching, like OpA, was originally fan based, and for one reason or another the creators couldn't get them to collaborate. a LOT of time has passed since the last cassieiswatching video, and the creators have noticed that this spin-off is kind of leaving us fans with unanswered questions. they don't want to keep us in the dark, yet they don't have access to the cassieiswatching account. so, though bree's latest video, they kind of give us some closure.

we can say "oh, bree says cassie was always just a prankster. she's an old friend of bree's but that's about all the significance she has right now." but given their controversial falling out (he said she said...is bree telling the truth? was cassie afraid of her religion? did bree stop talking to her because of the prank calls?) we can keep on the back burner of our mind that cassie might show up in the future. it also gives cassieiswatching a loop hole to suddenly reappear if they take the opportunity (although the account holders haven't logged on since they posted the last vid

)

i liked the cassieiswatching vids. it freaked me out during my 2am shifts at work. it's what got me interested in actually coming to this site and seeing what lg15 and the ARG is all about. before that i just watched lonelygirl15 and danielbeast and gemmers19 on youtube.

thanks for popping my cherry, cassie!

edit: "the creators" meaning the creators of breeniverse

AniDonia · Post by **AniDonia** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:29 am

the account holders haven't logged on since they posted the last vid

Interesting... Maybe they are being really hardcore about staying in character, since Frank is supposed to be dead. I hope the CiW PM's are still following the storyline and use this opportunity to pop up. I am really interested in seeing what they come up with.

kayokosaeki · Post by **kayokosaeki** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:00 am

AniDonia wrote:
the account holders haven't logged on since they posted the last vid
Interesting... Maybe they are being really hardcore about staying in character, since Frank is supposed to be dead. I hope the CiW PM's are still following the storyline and use this opportunity to pop up. I am really interested in seeing what they come up with.

frank! i totally don't understand frank....i know cassie talked through him, but was he a real schizophrenic? it's all a character, right? cause his blog freaks me out

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:07 am

When Frank came into the pic...I knew that CiW's quality was deteriorating...and...I hated that I was proven right.

kye909 · Post by **kye909** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:37 am

Aww, I liked Frank. But, I am easy to entertain.

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:52 am

It was just such a drastic change from the live drops and videos that made up the game before that. It seemed like a stretch to change that drastically, ya know?

GatorMeegs · Post by **GatorMeegs** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:25 am

I liked Frank too!

All the girls had crushes on him, all the guys wanted to drink Jack with him and all the Super 8 Motel Clerks hated him.

AniDonia · Post by **AniDonia** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:43 am

I missed most of Frank, but I get the gyst of it. I thought it was pretty clever... especially cause the PMs were pretty hardcore about staying in character. If I remember correctly, Frank's blogs were going on for a bit of time before his "reveal".

Btw kayokosaeki, I like your avatar. Is that you?

fuzzy_bunny85 · Post by **fuzzy_bunny85** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:14 am

Ok, I know that I've asked this before, but I still don't know the technical connection between OpAphid's Cassie, and CiW. I know the whole gamejacking thing, but was Op referring to the CiW Cassie, or did they invent their own. I mean, who was that girl in the early Op vids supposed to be? And, if that girl in the early vids was supposed to be Cassie, and Op is now Canon, wouldn't that Cassie be canon by default?

covedweller · Post by **covedweller** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:55 am

fuzzy_bunny85 wrote:Ok, I know that I've asked this before, but I still don't know the technical connection between OpAphid's Cassie, and CiW. I know the whole gamejacking thing, but was Op referring to the CiW Cassie, or did they invent their own. I mean, who was that girl in the early Op vids supposed to be? And, if that girl in the early vids was supposed to be Cassie, and Op is now Canon, wouldn't that Cassie be canon by default?

The Op/LG15/CiW Cassie is sort of explained by Bree's last video mention of her, IMHO.

Maybe Bree's mom told The Order and they told OpAphid to teach her a lesson?

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 8:44 am

fuzzy_bunny85 wrote:Ok, I know that I've asked this before, but I still don't know the technical connection between OpAphid's Cassie, and CiW. I know the whole gamejacking thing, but was Op referring to the CiW Cassie, or did they invent their own. I mean, who was that girl in the early Op vids supposed to be? And, if that girl in the early vids was supposed to be Cassie, and Op is now Canon, wouldn't that Cassie be canon by default?

When I first started looking at Op vids, that point confused me, too. I think OpAphid used Ciw as a catalyst, hence the heavy cassie mentions in the beginning. I think that was Op's way in. CiW was a separate character and a sparate fan creation based on the girl mentioned in the Swimming video. The way it was explained to me is that OpAphid sorta gamejacked CiW and now Op is the official ARG. The creators have always distanced themselves from CiW, so she wouldn't be canon. I think Bree bringing her up was to lay that to rest. I think they intended to have something come up for the Cassie character, but CiW pretty much derailed that and they are scrapping it and have moved on to a different storyline.

kye909 · Post by **kye909** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:46 pm

Has anyone brought up a possible connection between Bree's Uncle Franklin and CiW's Frank? That may be a stretch, but I type whatever is on my mind these days.

Kasdeja · Post by **Kasdeja** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:20 pm

Wow, I hadn't even thought of that.

Good observation

Post by **wintermute** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 1:27 pm

kye909 wrote:Has anyone brought up a possible connection between Bree's Uncle Franklin and CiW's Frank? That may be a stretch, but I type whatever is on my mind these days.

As was pointed out to me by someone (can't remember who), CiW's Frank was Francis, not Franklin. Could be an oversight by the Creators. Possibly intentional. May or may not prove relevant later.

'mute