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				Gemma brainwashed?
				Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 7:55 am
				by immortal1
				We know the Order uses some sort of mind control or programming from the Daniel vid. where he talked a bit out of character and asked Bree to do the ceremony.
I suddenly realized, Gemma didn't make sense a whole lot of the time either.  What if she was programmed too?
Is it possible Tachyon has her and is deprogramming her?
Probably not but if they ever wanted to bring the character back they could do it that way.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:05 am
				by Sami
				maybe it turns out that she was brainwashed by the order and is really 'good'
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 8:05 am
				by nobackspacebutton
				From what I know about the actor, she had to stop participating in the series because she needed more time to dedicate to school. But you're right, they could always bring a character back that way. 
Personally, I don't think Gemma was brainwashed. She might not be making sense, but I think that was just due to her guilt. She was following the Orders commands, but at the same time she didn't want to hurt Bree. Because of that, she sometimes spoke in riddles, telling Bree that 'it wasn't her decision' but yet it 'was her decision'.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:16 am
				by Inigo
				God I hope so. Anything to bring Gemma back is ok by me. Actually I don't care if she's good, evil or neutral, I just want her back!
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:06 am
				by Sami
				Maybe they're lying about Gemma going back to school. To throw us off.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:08 am
				by Killthesmiley
				Sami wrote:Maybe they're lying about Gemma going back to school. To throw us off.
not Gemma, Jackie, the chick that plays Gemma.
Gemma the character was apparently shot by Brother.
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:19 am
				by Sami
				Killthesmiley wrote:Sami wrote:Maybe they're lying about Gemma going back to school. To throw us off.
not Gemma, Jackie, the chick that plays Gemma.
Gemma the character was apparently shot by Brother.
 
I know. I ment Jackie, sorry!
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:53 am
				by Lurker
				nobackspacebutton wrote:Personally, I don't think Gemma was brainwashed. She might not be making sense, but I think that was just due to her guilt. She was following the Orders commands, but at the same time she didn't want to hurt Bree.
I don't think she had any guilt. She led War Pylol to Brother's place, after all, and that was to get him killed (after she'd apparently been romantically involved with him; definitely not the same kind of relationship she had going with Bree).
nobackspacebutton wrote:Because of that, she sometimes spoke in riddles, telling Bree that 'it wasn't her decision' but yet it 'was her decision'.
BA, don't you remember with the "is/isn't your decision" thing it was determined that "It's not your decision" meant to quit the ceremony and "It's your decision" meant to trust Gemma or not?
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:01 pm
				by Killthesmiley
				Sami wrote:Killthesmiley wrote:Sami wrote:Maybe they're lying about Gemma going back to school. To throw us off.
not Gemma, Jackie, the chick that plays Gemma.
Gemma the character was apparently shot by Brother.
 
I know. I ment Jackie, sorry!
 
oh ok!! *huggles*
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:02 pm
				by Inigo
				Well there's also the highly plausible theory that Gemma is Tachyon
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:02 pm
				by HyeMew
				Inigo wrote:Well there's also the highly plausible theory that Gemma is Tachyon
...is it? 
I mean wouldn't Bree tell us "Tachyon stayed over this weekend! Oh and btw SHE'S GEMMA."
Perhaps she'd want to keep that a secret from the Order, but then what was Gemma doing in Guam if she was just in LA a month or two ago? It seems like that Tachyon was never around until she dropped in to save Bree, but as it turns out she was Gemma and in LA the whole time? Doesn't really make sense...
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:38 pm
				by immortal1
				Killthesmiley wrote:not Gemma, Jackie, the chick that plays Gemma.
Gemma the character was apparently shot by Brother.
Habeas corpus.  I didn't see no dead body.
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:43 pm
				by Christie91
				OMG We're not gonna get into that whole discussion of "I never saw Gemmas corpse therefore she is not dead" thing again are we?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:58 pm
				by immortal1
				Christie91 wrote:OMG We're not gonna get into that whole discussion of "I never saw Gemmas corpse therefore she is not dead" thing again are we?
Even when there is a body, that doesn't mean anything.  Don't make me bring up evil twins and clones!
I just think it would be a helluva twist if she came back and to discover she was programmed and Tachyon deprogrammed her.
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:15 pm
				by nobackspacebutton
				immortal1 wrote:Killthesmiley wrote:not Gemma, Jackie, the chick that plays Gemma.
Gemma the character was apparently shot by Brother.
Habeas corpus.  I didn't see no dead body.
 
But if the actor cannot continue to play Gemma, the only way for Gemma to 'come back' would be for Gemma's brain to be transplanted into another body so another actor could play her.