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The Watchers are GOOD GUYS

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:56 pm
by GDR425
i now 100% completely believe that the watchers are good.
the watchers are protecting bree. gemma was the one informing daniel and bree about the watchers and im pretty sure that she would lie to them just like she lied about everything else.
think about it.
jonas goes to hit that watcher guy in the latest video and the guy goes to throw another punch but stops when bree was in the way. there was absolutely nothing stopping him from punching jonas out (because obviously him stopping jonas' punch wasnt a big deal) and taking bree with him, if that was his objective.
i believe they're there protecting bree from the true bad guys, such as the likes of gemma and lucy.
think again.
if The Order had resources in all places, like police departments and places like that, do you really think 3 young people are going to be able to escape from that many resources. absolutely not.
i think theres a big piece of the puzzle missing and we havent even been clued in on what it is. but my theory so far, the watchers are good, and bree is obviously very special, very important, some type of phenomena that The Order of opaphid are trying to capture and maybe even destroy.

and this is the first time that i've ever theorized about this series, and i think its pretty logical, what do you think?

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:02 pm
by Sami
Maybe, they're watching them.. To look after them. It's possible. But you can't "100% believe" :P

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:02 pm
by Balmung
100%? that' pretty confident. If he was there to protect bree, don't you think he would know her friends? also, he would identify himself as a friend instead of ust sitting there and saying nothing.

And you're right. If the Order had all those resources and informants, they wouldn't be able to fully escape them. they didn't. the watchers are the order.

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:09 pm
by GDR425
well of course im exaggerating, calm down guys lol but yes im pretty confident, the thing is we dont know how they work, we dont know if he's allowed to indentify himself, of how much he knows (as far as her friends go) but yeah im pretty confident they aren't bad guys at all, in fact the complete opposite

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:37 pm
by islandlove
i used to think that watchers were the good guys but lately ive changed my mind

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:37 pm
by Balmung
ok why wouldn't he be allowed to indentify himself?

and why would he know so little about someone he is supposed to protect?

hmm, the watchers?

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:39 pm
by hahacool
All along the watchers have been bad guys, yes I know. But in the latest video "watch this" I was just wondering if maybe, just maybe, if that man in black was a body gaurd? Maybe Brother or Tachyon sent him? It just seemed odd to me that this man would make it so obvious, by parking where he did, and while Bree was infront of him he didn't say anything or try to harm her or take her. I don't know, it was just an idea I thought I'd share, I'm new to all of this, share what you think.

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:42 pm
by Balmung
i meant to say that on a different thread lol :oops:

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 8:52 pm
by imogene2004
I don't think they are good guys. Here's what I think of them, this is a post I made on the video forum:
imogene2004 wrote:I don't know if this has already been brought up somewhere else, but just a thought....

The watchers are always obvious and out in the open, like they want to be seen. Maybe they are only there as a diversion, like the watcher was there to distract Bree, Jonas, and Daniel while some other Op-ite went in the house to find the disc Tachyon gave to Bree. That would make a lot of sense, since the watcher obviously wasn't there to kidnap or harm any of them. Just seemed more like a diversion than a scare tactic to me.

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:04 pm
by Lurker
The Watcher not trying to take Bree shouldn't seem weird to us at this point. The Order has never tried grabbing her when they could (not during all that time she and Daniel were living in motels - even when they got their room key - and not when they shot her dad; they could have easily gotten her many times before now), but it's become clear that - for whatever reason - she has to willingly say "Here I am. I'll do the ceremony."

Anyway, I see no reason to think they're good guys just because this guy stopped his fist from hurting Bree. This whole thing has been about getting her to do the ceremony. Obviously breaking her skull open isn't going to be something he'd want to do. The fact that he was all too willing too hurt Jonas, though (somebody who we know has protected Bree, even at risk to himself), doesn't say much for this guy being benevolent.

As for the things Gemma said, it seems like a rather unsupported leap in logic to conclude she lied about everything just because she was a villain. In fact we know she didn't. The story she told about the family that disappeared and left behind their dog seems to have been true, as Tachyon is the sister of that girl who was chosen for the ceremony previously, and the dog that became Gemma's dog belonged to Tachyon's family.

Also, Gemma agreed with Bree about not going to the police (an idea that was originally Bree's, because she said people like judges were in the Order). It seems to me that Gemma told some truths mixed with bad advice.

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:07 pm
by hahacool
hmm, yeah, maybe you're right. The more I read things over the more it seems like chances are, that guy isn't good. I'm not completely erasing the thought from my mind, But when I think about it.. If that guy was there to protect them, he wouldn't be trying to hurt Jonas.. well then again he didn't really hurt him. I'm really confused, that's all I know haha I have so many ideas running through my head, I just want the next video to come. I'm leaning more towards them being bad though, because if he were good he probably would of explain himself, unless of course he was told not to incase the wrong people found out that he was protection.. I have no idea :( haha . I guess I'm just rambling.. but it's a few ideas I guess.

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:16 pm
by imogene2004
Lurker wrote: The fact that he was all too willing too hurt Jonas, though (somebody who we know has protected Bree, even at risk to himself), doesn't say much for this guy being benevolent.
I agree but at the same time I just wanted to point out that Jonas was the one that started it. The watcher behaved like anyone would when being attacked, he fought back, or atleast started to. Someone will probably try and bring that up as another excuse to say that watchers are good, although not me cuz I still think they are bad. Just because he didn't start the fight doesn't mean he is a good guy though. I just think the watcher had an ulterior motive for being there and he wasn't there to capture Bree or hurt anyone. He was probably doing exactly what he was to supposed to, whether it be just plain watching Bree or trying to freak her out or being a diversion like I said before, but when he was attacked he just naturally fought back.

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:22 pm
by hahacool
I think that the watcher being there to create a diversion is a very good idea. I think maybe he might of been there to get them outside, but more likely to have them on the run again. You'd think that if they knew where Jonas lived the order would just go there and do what they had to and capture them, like they captured Daniel. At this point, where ever they go.. I don't think they can trust anyone but themselves, they have no way of telling who is under the orders belt and if someone gives them advice.. they might actually be leading them straight to the order.

Re: hmm, the watchers?

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:17 am
by longlostposter
hahacool wrote: All along the watchers have been bad guys, yes I know. But in the latest video "watch this" I was just wondering if maybe, just maybe, if that man in black was a body gaurd? Maybe Brother or Tachyon sent him? It just seemed odd to me that this man would make it so obvious, by parking where he did, and while Bree was infront of him he didn't say anything or try to harm her or take her. I don't know, it was just an idea I thought I'd share, I'm new to all of this, share what you think.
Well, obviously the hole in saying that Tachyon sent them is that she probably would have told them she was going to do that.

I think they are from the Order, and they follow instructions. Their instructions are to watch, nothing more.

EDIT: Spelling...geez.

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:34 am
by GDR425
well yeah its a theory and theres no way you can factually disprove, they're just my thoughts, they're not wrong nor are they right, just my thoughts. adn the truth of the matter is none of us really know whats going on anyways, we all just speculate. so i think its funny you all are sooo sure they are bad when theres been nothing to really back that up, and again is gemma a great source for true information, i dont know. all im saying is, what was stopping that guy from just snatching bree and taking her to do the ceremony?