When Bree found that symbol..

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:10 am

She said that she couldn't sleep. She stayed up all night and couldn't stop thinking about it.

Before we had been discussing Daniel being brainwashed and how there might be possible triggers to set him off or to control him by OpAphid..What if that symbol was Bree's trigger?

After she saw it, she went 'crazy' and tied up Jonas.

Any thoughts?

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:11 am

I don't know...all this discussion about triggers and voice distortion...

i understand why people are seeing it that way, but i just don't think it fits...

mind you ... i could be wrong.

lonelyelendi · Post by **lonelyelendi** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:15 am

I agree with BA! I think there is a chance it was meant to trigger her into a certain action. It could be done. Make her extremely militant towards whoever was found to be in posession of the symbol...which in this case was Jonas.

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:17 am

Afterall, it wasn't the exact SAME symbol as OpAphids. Who knows what it could mean?

theratdiva wrote:
Please look at these two screen captures...

The first is a picture of you, holding up the symbol you found at Jonas' cabin. The second is the actual symbol used by the Order.

These are two different symbols, Bree. Do you know what they mean? I have to admit that I don't know, but considering that they aren't the same, maybe they don't mean the same thing.

If they don't mean the same, you might be holding Jonas under false pretenses.

TRD

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 11:47 am

Bree not sleeping and staying up all night thinking about it sounds like the natural reaction of someone who is upset, confused, and doesn't know what to do. I don't think it has anything to do with a trigger.

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:21 pm

yes but the symbol that bree is holding is in the cracked file...

so it cn be easily assumed that they are both connected.

cosmicdancer · Post by **cosmicdancer** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:41 pm

I think the reason Bree is reacting like this to the whole situation is not because of a trigger but because she's on some sort of power trip after the whole tricking the Order and learning some new tricks from Tachyon.
But basically what she is doing is abusing her power by letting all of her anger that has built up over the past 6 months out on Jonas, while she still doesn't know what that symbol means, or if Jonas is connected to the Order the way she thinks he is.

nobackspacebutton · Post by **nobackspacebutton** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:51 pm

Maybe the symbol she found was one that Daniel printed out....do they know about the file yet?

Lurker · Post by **Lurker** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:52 pm

nobackspacebutton wrote:Maybe the symbol she found was one that Daniel printed out....do they know about the file yet?

Bree referenced the file when she held up the symbol.

irenedirks · Post by **irenedirks** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:53 pm

well wasn't the symbol in the file made by Tachyon??

so maybe she knew these symbols would come up somewhere soon

maybe the other one can be found as well??

too bad she didn't say what they mean!!

Killthesmiley · Post by **Killthesmiley** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:03 pm

*jumps around in frustration*

i just said that!!!!

grrrr

j.king

irenedirks · Post by **irenedirks** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:12 pm

oh and don't most of these symbols also have a numeric meaning
like pi is 3.14

maybe all these numbers could lead up to something as well

maybe in hex

or maybe another phonenumber

or an internet adress????????

Skunkwaffle · Post by **Skunkwaffle** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:15 pm

It is possible that the jpg from Tach is some kind of yin-yang thing, and that symbol is actually the symbol for some anti-op group. Maybe Jonas' parents were taken down by the order and they left that behind for him so he could continue their work. It'd explain why he was so willing to help D&B back in the day.

Falls · Post by **Falls** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:51 pm

That damned McPhee planted it! -que sitcom music: That Damned McPhee-

I just think that Jonas was impressively dark and manipulative when he was tied up, no doubt ploys taught by the order. He even had the patented 'Oppy Stare' down. I think it belongs to him and he's with the Order, it would fit so well, but that's too predictable.

I want to know why Jonas was so ready to punch that Watcher. If I saw a Watcher, I'd cower in fear.

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:06 pm

cosmicdancer wrote:I think the reason Bree is reacting like this to the whole situation is not because of a trigger but because she's on some sort of power trip after the whole tricking the Order and learning some new tricks from Tachyon.
But basically what she is doing is abusing her power by letting all of her anger that has built up over the past 6 months out on Jonas, while she still doesn't know what that symbol means, or if Jonas is connected to the Order the way she thinks he is.

I think Bree feels she is in a very real struggle to take her life back and Daniel's as well.

Falls wrote: He even had the patented 'Oppy Stare' down. I think it belongs to him and he's with the Order, it would fit so well, but that's too predictable.

We know it belongs to him. He admitted it'd been in the cabin as long as he could remember.

Oh, do you possibly mean it belongs to him, and not his parents, or hasn't been just laying around?

Yeah, I think he's Order too.