Captured by....?

Pallidity · Post by **Pallidity** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:44 pm

Everyone in the video forum seems to think that it was Jonas that captured Bree and Daniel, if one of the three of them did it. But if you notice, it seems as though Jonas would be chloroforming himself and it often shows him standing around. It would make no sense for him to be standing around if Bree and Daniel were being captured and it would make no sense for him to chloroform himself.

Does anyone here think there is a possibility that Daniel is the one that did this?

We don't see Daniel get apprehended at all, although it appears that we do see Jonas apprehended. We see Daniel walking and looking at something that seems to be in his hands (ie the chloroform) It also looks as though the person driving away has a white sleeve on, which would be consistant with Daniels clothing, although this could just be the weird editing.

If anyone wants to point out the fact that Bree says "Jonas" throughout the video, my thought on that point is that maybe she's trying to call out to warn him.

Misty · Post by **Misty** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:26 pm

Pallidity wrote:Everyone in the video forum seems to think that it was Jonas that captured Bree and Daniel, if one of the three of them did it. But if you notice, it seems as though Jonas would be chloroforming himself and it often shows him standing around. It would make no sense for him to be standing around if Bree and Daniel were being captured and it would make no sense for him to chloroform himself.

Does anyone here think there is a possibility that Daniel is the one that did this?

We don't see Daniel get apprehended at all, although it appears that we do see Jonas apprehended. We see Daniel walking and looking at something that seems to be in his hands (ie the chloroform) It also looks as though the person driving away has a white sleeve on, which would be consistant with Daniels clothing, although this could just be the weird editing.

If anyone wants to point out the fact that Bree says "Jonas" throughout the video, my thought on that point is that maybe she's trying to call out to warn him.

When I watched it , it looked like the capture sequence was repeated 3 times from 3 different cameras. Bree only called out "Jonas" once, right before she and Jonas were simultaneously captured, and it was Daniel who chloroformed Jonas.

emerrs11 · Post by **emerrs11** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:46 pm

I think that someone came to help Daniel. Brother knew about what happend so he was flying around looking for him. At the gas station Daniel got the choloform ready. Then the person from the order came and used the stuff and kidnapped Bree and Daniel.

exanimatebylove · Post by **exanimatebylove** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:48 pm

Wow. I should read the forum throughly before I post new threads.

Anywho...yeah, I do. I totally agree. I mean, whether he was Order before all this or if just since being catured by the Order and was brainwashed...I think DB is behind this. ...........maybe??

Ali Zain · Post by **Ali Zain** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 11:02 pm

I don't know if this means anything but i saw the OTS on the desc for the video when it was posted and so i went to tinyurl.com/ots and it was a google search list and i dunno what any of it means or if it has anything to do with lonelygirl at all, its just wierd

Pallidity · Post by **Pallidity** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:16 am

Wow. I should read the forum throughly before I post new threads.

I don't know if this means anything but i saw the OTS on the desc for the video when it was posted and so i went to tinyurl.com/ots and it was a google search list and i dunno what any of it means or if it has anything to do with lonelygirl at all, its just wierd

I don't think it means anything. Lots of weird fff's and strange stuff that doesn't make any sense or relate to the plot as far as I can tell.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OTS

The only things that seem plausable are either the data transport or the .ots file extension. But for some reason I keep thinking of time zones. IE 1:35 am Not sure about the 09 though. It could also stand for something like "original transcript sent" as in the original message with the video sent. Or "original time stamp" which would be about the same thing.

smacko · Post by **smacko** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:35 am

Pallidity wrote:Does anyone here think there is a possibility that Daniel is the one that did this?

I don't think so. It wasn't very clear, but Daniel was captured first. Whoever was doing the "capturing" snuck up on him from behind and around the corner of the building.

Pallidity wrote:It also looks as though the person driving away has a white sleeve on, which would be consistant with Daniels clothing, although this could just be the weird editing.

Definitely weird editing. It wasn't a white sleeve, just an arm with a white color fill.

I also wonder what is meant by "Transmission OTS - 0135 - 09"

cosmicdancer · Post by **cosmicdancer** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:15 am

I don't think Daniel has to do with this.

Sami · Post by **Sami** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:38 am

I don't know....
It looks to me like Jonas is chloroforming himself. This make me believe that the whole thing is staged :/

But.. I don't know

Libra · Post by **Libra** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:40 am

Its not Daniel. If you look you see the camera approach him and he definately yells out BREEEEE. Its not very clear, but its there.

Wow I could have sworn I saw a second arm in the scene with Jonas, but now that I've watched it 10 times it does look like hes doing it to himself????????

Pallidity · Post by **Pallidity** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:46 am

You know, it's possible that they made up the entire video and sent it as a private message to Oppy somehow. How without blowing the cover though, I'm not sure. Doubtful that they would have access to any Order emails or whatever was used to send the video.

Someone did point out that it looked like he was trying to push someone away. Their arm hit around the elbow to make it look more like he chloroformed himself than having someone else do it.

Hmmm. Tricky tricky.

Libra · Post by **Libra** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 9:51 am

Pallidity wrote:
Someone did point out that it looked like he was trying to push someone away. Their arm hit around the elbow to make it look more like he chloroformed himself than having someone else do it.

Hmmm. Tricky tricky.

It really does look like hes doing it to himself, but if you listen it sounds like hes struggling with someone. Like hes trying to get it off but he can't.

Leaven · Post by **Leaven** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:09 pm

I don't think it looks like Jonas is chloroforming himself. There would be absolutely no point to that even if he was "bad". This is a private video to the order and if he was bad he wouldn't have to stage anything!

It looks like someone came at him from his left and his right arm grabbed at the cloth, which would be a natural reaction.

It looked to me like Daniel was captured as well, though I admit it wasn't as clear as Bree and Jonas getting captured, so there is some merit to the thought that he was triggered here.

ladysolitary85 · Post by **ladysolitary85** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:01 am

I'm still confused myself.... I wanna say Daniel was the one who got in the car last... because you don't see him actually captured, but you do hear him say "Bree"

Jonas looked as though he was fading from his struggle. Like he tried to get the clothe off but the effect took too soon.

Ugh theres probebly 2,000 comments on the video page now and till no video???? WE NEED TO KNOW WHATS GOING ON lol

longlostposter · Post by **longlostposter** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 1:02 pm

I really don't think Daniel had anything to do with the captures; he was apprehended just like J&B.

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