Lonelygirl15

Is Phase II, the P in Aphid? IOW, protect (as in keeping the trio "protected" from rescuers or outsiders)? Just throwing this out there.

Yeah I was wondering how the other letters in APHID would be used in this. We know they can't hurt or force Bree to do the ceremony, so what would be the next step? Protect seems to make sense.

Right, Libra, a kind of looping of sorts.

Although I'm still not hot on the free-will theory unless it is free-will as in Bree must speak certain words (Enochian?).

Juli, you think they will go to any means to get her to do the Ceremony? I didn't think so before, but maybe now they are very desperate.

I know that when the Order talks of free will they dont mean a true free will. Like with the whole Human Ransom thing, they pretty much forced her too, but since she said she would go it was of her own free will kinda thing.

I wonder what kind of extreme lengths they will go to get her to do the ceremony. Brain washing with spin art perhaps?

I've been thinking about this as well. Would they torture the boys in front of her eyes? Would they sit them tied up in a chair in front of her with a machete across their necks as she is forced to do or say whatever they want her to as part of the ceremony.

One of the earlier theories that floated around was that the Order wanted Bree to sacrifice Daniel (as in she does the killing). I really don't want to see that now, but I wonder why the boys are important to the Order now? did they take them just so they won't contact anyone for help (Tachyon?)?

Lastly, is sex majick involved? Are Daniel (or Jonas) and Bree some kind of genetically superior mutation (by the Orders standards) and the Order wants to mate the superior genetically-engineered children together, in order to create more little Bree's or some kind of super-race type thing? This would explain why Bree seems to be the only girl that will do for the ceremony.

Ahh, I've gone on a tangent again. Apologies.

I believe the boys were always important to the Order. Remember what happened to her father when he got in the Orders way? "You will see the reward of your actions". They punish those that interfere with their plans. If it wasn't for Daniel, Bree would have just done the ceremony. Without Jonas they would have been able to capture Bree so much more easily because she had no money and no place to go.

I don't know how much I believe that the Ceremony was some freaky thing to get Bree to procreate and make more genetically favorable beings. Only time will tell on that one.

Libra wrote:I don't know how much I believe that the Ceremony was some freaky thing to get Bree to procreate and make more genetically favorable beings. Only time will tell on that one.

This goes back to Crowley. Crowley was a huge proponent of sex majick, and, since Bree must keep a "purity bond" in order to be fit for the ceremony, speculation on this point has merit.

longlostposter wrote:This goes back to Crowley. Crowley was a huge proponent of sex majick, and, since Bree must keep a "purity bond" in order to be fit for the ceremony, speculation on this point has merit.

Haha I keep forgetting about Crowley. The Creators keep saying that he is important. Maybe you are right. But wouldn't that bring the rating up from PG13?

Libra wrote:

longlostposter wrote:This goes back to Crowley. Crowley was a huge proponent of sex majick, and, since Bree must keep a "purity bond" in order to be fit for the ceremony, speculation on this point has merit.

Haha I keep forgetting about Crowley. The Creators keep saying that he is important. Maybe you are right. But wouldn't that bring the rating up from PG13?

Probably so. There may be a way to do it, so as not to show what's really going on, though.

Ugh that would be so Order like. Make it all creepy so we don't know whats going on!

I think more people need to post here. We need some crazy ideas as to what people think Phase II is so we have something to discuss until the next video!

Libra wrote:Ugh that would be so Order like. Make it all creepy so we don't know whats going on!

I think more people need to post here. We need some crazy ideas as to what people think Phase II is so we have something to discuss until the next video!

I agree with both of these.

The thing about the ceremony is, we know it's got to be sinister in some way, because of the lengths the Order have gone to to make sure it happens. They've kidnapped numerous times, murdered, and stalked some teenage kids. Also, "and as such, you shall face our wrath"?

Believe me, this ceremony is no cakewalk.

Oh, the B sacrificing D comes from some kind of ritual that was practiced by another group that was Crowley-influenced, I believe.

Is it just me or is it really that hard for a large group of adults to capture 3 teenagers?

I would think Phase II would be the second part of thier current operation not the far sweeping strategy. Phase I would be to apprehend the kids. Phase II may be taking them to a safe house.
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Libra wrote:

longlostposter wrote:This goes back to Crowley. Crowley was a huge proponent of sex majick, and, since Bree must keep a "purity bond" in order to be fit for the ceremony, speculation on this point has merit.

Haha I keep forgetting about Crowley. The Creators keep saying that he is important. Maybe you are right. But wouldn't that bring the rating up from PG13?

They lost the PG13 rating when Jonas dropped multiple F bombs in one video. So obviously it's not something strictly adhered to.

giddeanx wrote:I would think Phase II would be the second part of thier current operation not the far sweeping strategy. Phase I would be to apprehend the kids. Phase II may be taking them to a safe house.
Yada yada yada.

What would they do with Daniel and Jonas. They really have no use for the Order. Granted, the Order could murder them since they know "too much."