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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:38 am
by kellylen
for some reason I have this feeling that brother offed tach. it may be a little far fetched but I don't know, i feel like he is mocking tach part of the time and is making up the figi thing. I don't know. maybe im going a little nutty. I do like the idea of brother needed to be saved though

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:39 am
by sidewalkflight
Ziola wrote:You got a sign, so I pay a ransom
You felt sorry, so I felt a wrath come
Had a nice grip on my life 'til you twisted my arm
My arm


She decided that Gemma was seriously getting in the way, so she had Brother take care of her. He paid the ransom by sacrificing what was a romantic entanglement from his past. She twisted his arm by making him do this, and now he's fed up. She no longer has power over him.
Hm. I don't think when it happened that Brother actually did have any emotional hangups about it. In fact, I kind of doubt it was ever a meaningful relationship, Brother's more of a lady's man. I couldn't see any remorse in his video or vid description, and Tach kept referring to it as like a "treat" or "present" for him. She was doing him a favour, something she thought he'd like to do himself.

That's kind of off topic anyways I guess.

I think Brother's "losing grip" of the situation in Tach's absense. Op reappeared so he's either anticipating trouble or something has happened. Maybe he's even figured out what Op was saying.

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 12:53 pm
by horcruxes
this makes me excited.
not the brother/tacky part.
the alkaline trio part.

if anyone would like to discuss the band by all means i'm down.
i can be your resident alkaline trio expert ;D

oh yeah, the voicemail was nice too i guess.... pffft

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 1:27 pm
by Killthesmiley
can omeone record this and post a link...
there isn't a link yet on the thread.

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 2:21 pm
by imagin
Here's the one I did, provided I can get the link to work. Be forewarned, the audio was crappy on the voicemail as it was--- this is no better.

http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.ph ... 305685.wav

Sorry about not posting it sooner- I'd figured someone with a cleaner audio would have by now. Feel free to add yours if you have a better one :) cause I know this one is terrible.

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 2:27 pm
by JustAnotherLonelyGirl.
I'm thinking this is a cry for help. Maybe either to us or to Tach... whoever hears it. I think Brother was too confident for too long and his identity as Sebastian is out. And now he's scared shitless. :shock:

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:06 pm
by Killthesmiley
imagin wrote:Here's the one I did, provided I can get the link to work. Be forewarned, the audio was crappy on the voicemail as it was--- this is no better.

http://www.supload.com/sound_confirm.ph ... 305685.wav
thanks Imagin! the audio is a little harsh...i need my head phones to listen.
But I do think everyone is pretty much on the same stand point : its a cry for help from either Tach or brother.
I imagine that it could be taken as a cryfor help in one of many ways:
1) something has gone horribly wrong
2)the drunk daniel spilling his guts out to everyone completely ruined the secrecy of where they were hiding out
3)something has gone horribly wrong concerning gemma
4)brother is depressed over the death of gemma on his hands
5)something terrible has happened/will happen to tachyon, and Brother feels it is at his expense...

But i feel that this is definately showing sign of weakness on their part.
But I do feel to remind myself that i feel like Op is showing us a sign of weakness in her latest video as well...

So, with the latest developments, i can't help but feel that the cards in the Truth or Dare video was to symboloize that everyone's hands are being carelessly shown (bree carelessly showing the card that she dropped to the camera).
(a. daniel getting drunk, spilling the beans, b. the order murdering a man in plain daylight, in a public place on video, c. gemma being revealed and obviously she was too careless in hiding her whereabouts d. Daniel being caught on security cam breaking into the wearhouse and being seen by a car e. jonas stolen car being left at the parking garage for the order to search)

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:25 pm
by girlAnachronism
To me, it seems that brother is a bit pissed at Tachyon for setting up this mission and then finding out that he played into Op's hands. The line "To a hopeless cause I sold my soul" seems to sum up that he's feeling defeated. 10033 - Tachyon = no opposition to Oppy. She'd just lock him in a room and to get out he'd have to press "any key" he'd starve to death in there...

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:28 pm
by horcruxes
if anyone wants to hear the song (and see alk3 live ;D) go here.

edited: because i found one that was the whole song!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xbHqnjSIeWE

its acoustic. but its still better than the VM
if you don't mind a few people singing along.

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:53 pm
by diastres
Ruberic wrote:His offing of Gemma may have revealed that Sebastian was still alive, and Oppy found him.
I just thought I'd point out that Oppy probably (debatable due to her absence) knew Brother was Sebastian before Gemma was killed. In the BB puzzle it was a letter from Tachyon to Brother, and she specifically mentioned that he was Sebastian.

Now, if that wasn't enough, Brother started the Gemma V vid with the War Pylol vid.

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:42 am
by itsreallyreal
Couldn't this just be his sad ode to Gemma? I they actually did get involved?

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:14 am
by Oz
I think you could be right about him mainly being sad about Gemma. He's probably upset at how far he's been pushed. Having to kill your old girlfriend must be pretty harsh after all.

Or maybe he's trying to say he didn't do it? That he's tired of being made to do these things and this was one step too far.

And I open up like the back of a book
I ruin everything with just a quick look
I settle down like a rocket explodes
Hit the ground, but how far out who knows


This sounds like he gave something away or messed up somehow to me. And he doesn't know yet what the consequences might be.

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:15 am
by itsreallyreal
Wait...

What if this is Brothers way of saying he is tired of being pushed... And the order to "Take Car" of Jemma was TOO MUCH and this is how he is telling tachy???

Like a "Sorry b*tch but you can handle this one on your own..."

Kind of thing...

L M F A I

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:20 am
by Ziola
itsreallyreal wrote:Wait...

What if this is Brothers way of saying he is tired of being pushed... And the order to "Take Car" of Jemma was TOO MUCH and this is how he is telling tachy???

Like a "Sorry b*tch but you can handle this one on your own..."

Kind of thing...

L M F A I
Thats what I was saying on the other page. It seems to me like he's tired of her calling all the shots and making him do the dirty work and he's telling her go piss in the wind...

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:22 am
by itsreallyreal
LOVE the Avi OZ!!!!